The (black) host of NPR’s “It’s Been a Minute” and his (black) guest, who do not think they are being ironic or asking too much:

SANDERS: There is also an entire chapter on navigating an interracial friendship. And I’ve really enjoyed it. And y’all quote a poem that says, quote, “the first thing you do is forget that I’m Black. Second, you must never forget that I’m Black.” And this was advice on a white person trying to be a Black person’s friend. Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow. Unpack that for me because it’s a word.

SOW: Whew.

(Emphasis added.)

Oh, is that all?