Politifact Not Credible

August 30, 2012

National Review’s editors on that self-appointed arbiter of truth:

Maybe it’s liberal bias that explains PolitiFact’s blown calls. Whatever the reason, it is no good at distinguishing between truth and falsehood, which is to say at its professed mission. It should therefore give itself a “pants on fire” rating and shut itself down.

Read the whole thing.

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7 Responses to “Politifact Not Credible”

  1. Snoodickle Says:

    Is the truth important to you? If so, I would suggest you reevaluate who you are going to vote for.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/31/us/politics/ryans-speech-contained-a-litany-of-falsehoods.html?_r=1&hp

    P.S. How do these politicians square their lies with their professed religious beliefs (thou shalt not bear false witness…) Is it worth going to hell to win an election? The sad truth is that religion has become so infected by politics that the “devout” can justify bending its principles to help achieve their political aspirations. Where are you God?


    • I knew that some disreputable liberals were doing spurious “fact checks” of Ryan’s speech, but I didn’t know that even the New York Times had stooped to join them. You’ll want to read all the writers I linked to today checking the “fact checkers”.

      The last item in the Times is the epitome of what’s wrong with the fact checkers’ efforts:

      In his floor speech, Mr. Romney repeated his widely debunked charge that Mr. Obama had gone on an “apology tour” on America’s behalf — an accusation he feels so strongly about that he laid out his own worldview in a 2010 book he titled “No Apology.”

      But independent fact checkers have called the accusation a distortion, and it is hard to find evidence that Mr. Obama ever said he was sorry for the United States.

      You can’t “debunk” a political difference of opinion, no matter how solemnly you intone it—even if you’re the Times. Conservatives think President Obama’s tone in those speeches was entirely too little pro-American. It conspicuously misses the point to reply, We couldn’t find a single instance of his saying the words “I’m sorry!”

      As Jonathan Adler said, “It’s quite strange that some want to turn every political disagreement into a question of ‘fact.'”

      • Snoodickle Says:

        “Disreputable liberals”?

        I don’t think that calling President Obama’s foreign speeches an “apology tour” is an outright lie, but it’s an egregious misrepresentation and disingenuous, especially when it was Romney himself who famously said “We’ve made mistakes, and we’re sorry for that, but we’re never going to apologize!”


      • Pretty sure you just became an example of exactly what I’m talking about.

      • Snoodickle Says:

        Ok. Care to explain yourself?


      • I said, “Conservatives think President Obama’s tone in those speeches was entirely too little pro-American. It conspicuously misses the point”—it’s missing the forest for the trees—to respond with a bean-counting argument about the exact words used.

        As Jonathan Adler said, “It’s quite strange that some want to turn every political disagreement into a question of ‘fact.’”

        You responded by saying that Romney’s words were “an egregious misrepresentation and disingenuous” and making a bean-counting argument about the exact words used. Romney’s words are not a misrepresentation or disingenuous; he’s a conservative and Obama is a liberal. You can’t expect Romney or other conservatives to agree with either the content or the tenor of all of Obama’s speeches.

      • Snoodickle Says:

        Wait a second, are you now saying that opinions are objectively false?


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