Guns Mainstream?

November 28, 2011

I heard an ad for a gun Web site on the radio this morning.  (They’re having their “cyber-Monday” sale.)  I’ve never heard an ad for a gun Web site on the radio before.  I wonder whether it’s a sign of a changing culture.

Certainly the different states’ laws have become much more congenial to concealed carry over the course of the last twenty-five years, as shown dramatically in this animated-GIF map from the Wikipedia article on the subject.  Ohio’s own concealed-carry law was passed so recently that I remember when it happened.  

Maybe a correction in the pro-gun direction was bound to happen.  Maybe it was always strange and unsustainable for something that was a part of the lives of so many Americans—gun ownership—to be so alien, even repugnant, to so many others.  Gallup reports that from 1960 to now, the fraction of Americans who “have a gun in the home” has ranged between about a third and about half, most recently 45% as of last month, although others argue that only a third of households have guns and that that number is declining.

That Gallup page also reports steadily increasing support for gun rights (or decreasing support for gun control, however you want to look at it) over the past twenty years.

I talk plenty about ways in which American culture has declined over time, but it’s a complex world, and it’s also possible for a culture to improve in a given area over time—even at the same time.

23 Responses to “Guns Mainstream?”

  1. Snoodickle Says:

    I think I’ve asked this question before, but do you own a gun?

  2. We can hope – and VOTE – for such a change of viewpoint. I’ve noted the same changes and am mildly optimistic. However, the left is very strong and essentially controls most of the mainstream media.

    And on a matter of taste, do you really own a Glock?

  3. As a relative latecomer to conservatism, I have to admit, I have yet to purchase a gun. I’m open to recommendations!

  4. Snoodickle Says:

    You’ve been a conservative for how many years now, and have yet to purchase a gun. It almost seems like you’re not so secretly averse to the ownership of deadly weapons. Anywho, I recommend the sawed-off shotgun.

    • Tevyeh Says:

      I’ve always said that I want to visit Yellowstone Park, but to date I’ve never gone. I must have a not-so-secret aversion to the Great Outdoors.

      • Snoodickle Says:

        Sometime your comments make no sense.

      • Tevyeh Says:

        Let me clarify. You inferred an aversion to private weapon ownership from Chillingworth’s lack of a gun. I meant to suggest that this argument is about as logical as inferring an aversion to the great outdoors from my failure to visit Yellowstone.

        You’re right, it makes no sense.

      • Snoodickle Says:

        The comparison makes no sense. No one would infer an aversion to the Great Outdoors from the fact that someone has not been to a certain national park. They would assume that that person simply does not have the time and/or money to take a vacation.

        Buying a gun, on the other hand, is rather easy to do. Certainly money is not an issue. Or time. If Chillingworth actually thinks that guns makes people safer, he would have bought one. The fact that he has not leads me to the conclusion that he thinks they are in fact dangerous, and not a wise investment.

      • Tevyeh Says:

        “Certainly money is not an issue. Or time.”

        It must be nice to see it that way. In any case, I’m pretty sure I could fund a week’s camping trip to Yellowstone for less than the combined cost of a quality handgun, instruction, licensing, and the amount of ammunition (expensive these days!) I’d need to get in an adequate amount of practice. Add to this checklist the research I’d need to do before selecting a weapon, and I’m afraid that responsible gun ownership involves a little more committment—both of time and money—than a trip to Wal-Mart.

        Considering the costs, it’s patently fallacious to infer an aversion to gun ownership from Chillingworth’s not having gotten around to it. The most you can fairly infer is that getting a gun hasn’t been his “number one” priority.

      • Snoodickle Says:

        Let’s see if he follows through and buys a gun. If he does, god help little Susie Olson.

  5. Snoodickle Says:

    * make

  6. Chillingworth;

    There are several steps to purchasing a gun.

    First. Decide if you really want one. Depending on where you live (certain municipalities require expenditures other than the price of the gun) and your living conditions (a significant other and children can complicate matters) you may decide owning a gun is too much bother or too dangerous all in all. Another complication is price; a decent handgun will start in the $300 to $400 range and go up. Your budget may or may not handle it. Up to you.

    Second. What sort of gun do you want? Targets only? Self-defense? Bear hunting? Contrary to some opinions, guns aren’t just guns.

    Third. Research some. There are firearms websites that will lecture you, and some that have discussion forums. The discussion forums have a broad spectrum of views, some even worthwhile.

    The actual buying comes later. Most of what you need is more than twenty-one birthdays and a reasonably clean record. No felony convictions and no misdemeanor violations including violence. Not be a drug addict, never have been adjudged insane and so forth. In some jurisdictions you’ll need some form of ‘license’ to buy a firearm.

    If you live in Chicago, New York City or Boston, move.

    I can give you some more background information, but don’t want to tie up your blog. If you feel like it, contact me directly.

  7. […] not the country we were a decade ago, or two or three:  We have a much more solid consensus in favor of the right to keep and bear arms.  To get some idea of the trend over time, just look at Wikipedia’s animated GIF about […]

  8. I would like to see more guns in circulation, albeit in responsible hands. Just my thoughts.

  9. Mr. Liakos (of Greek extraction I’m guessing) I agree completely as do most of my colleagues. One finds far too many irresponsible (criminal) types possessing arms.

    Frankly, some people should not own, possess, operate or be allowed access to automobiles. But I prefer any level of government to issue a total ban of such for all citizens.

  10. Greek in name, proud U.S. citizen by birthright.

  11. I think the climate is changing, little by little. Too many reputable citizens now own – openly – and purchase firearms.

    By the way, I left out a NOT in my prior comment. I think autos should NOT be banned in general.

  12. Glad to meet you, Mr Liakos. My people are from Scotland, sometime prior to the American Revolution. (I can’t pin it down further.)

  13. Old Man Montgomery, I think it’s absurd that we even need to have permits that dictate whether or not we can open or conceal carry a firearm. Here is another ridiculous thing: Being told what kind of firearms you can and cannot own.

    • Considering a person possessing a firearm – or Boy Scout hatchet – for nefarious purposes is exempt from notifying any authority. For a person to be required to identify themselves when planning to commit a crime is prohibited self-incrimination under the Fifth Amendment.

      Since criminals are exempt from such licensing, law-abiding citizens should not be so penalized. Nor are criminals required to have safety and operational training to any level prescribed by governmental authority.

      The only laws proper for ‘control’ of firearms are those suitable for general human behavior. To forbid actions dangerous to others. One may not – in most jurisdictions – randomly discharge a firearm in an “inhabited area”. By the same token, one should not be able to throw rocks (or anything of the sort) randomly in the same “inhabited area”.

      However, exceptions apply for specific reasons.

      I find it the height of stupidity to consider mere possession of a firearm – or rock – in ‘inhabited areas’ a criminal offense.

      Of course, blaming human misbehavior on an inanimate object is illogical and absurd.

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