Yes, Marriage Is worth Defending

October 6, 2009

Even from a Non-Christian Perspective

“Should We Defend Marriage?”

I’m sympathetic to the libertarian argument (made by many, including many Christians) that the state should completely get out of the marriage business.  From this point of view, we can avoid all the rancorous public fights over same-sex marriage, etc. if we can all agree that it’s not the government’s business whether a given couple (or group, in the case of polygamy or “polyamory”) is “married”.

Ultimately, however, I’m inclined to disagree.  Even judging only by non-religious utilitarian criteria, I think the state should recognize—and (if only by recognizing) encourage—marriage.  Think about it this way:

Traditionally, marriage is understood partly as a contract—a covenant, as you say.  The state does not (and cannot) comprehend the part of the covenant that involves God, but it can lay the legal foundation for marriage to be a binding contract between the husband and wife.  As C. S. Lewis says in Mere Christianity,

…those who are in love have a natural inclination to bind themselves by promises.  Love songs all over the world are full of vows of eternal constancy.  The Christian law is not forcing upon the passion of love something which is foreign to that passion’s own nature: it is demanding that lovers should take seriously something which their passion of itself impels them to do.

(book III, chapter 6, “Christian Marriage”)

Two people in love naturally incline toward promising to stay with each other through thick and thin—in a word, toward marriage—but without the involvement of the state, there can be no legally binding contract; in other words, the husband and wife would still be free to say they’d stay together until death did them part, but the promise would have no legal force, no enforcement mechanism.  It is my understanding that under the old at-fault divorce laws, part of the enforcement mechanism was that in divorce proceedings, judges would take, say, adultery into account when dividing up the couple’s property.  That is, a man could cheat on his wife—and then maybe he would be eligible for divorce, because infidelity was one of the legal grounds for divorce—but his wife would get all his stuff.  That’s a huge disincentive to break his promise—his original promise to his wife, his “I do”.  It’s not that I want people to be legally forced to stay together when they’d rather throw in the towel and separate, but the heavy penalty or disincentive for doing so will necessarily affect their thinking (even if only unconsciously, in the back of their minds) during the relationship, and make them less likely to feel like separating.

This is why even just changing our laws from at-fault divorce to no-fault divorce has already weakened marriage considerably—we don’t just need to defend marriage, we need to build it back up.  Bringing economics into this kind of thing has the potential to be reductive, but I think John Lott’s explanation is helpful here:

Suppose, for example, that a man wants to leave his wife.  With at-fault divorce, the husband must get his wife to agree to the divorce and essentially has to pay her for the right to leave the marriage.  The more that the wife has invested in the relationship, the more she will demand in compensation before she will let the husband have the divorce.  But no-fault divorce laws reverse this situation and greatly weaken the wife’s bargaining position—if the husband wants to leave, the wife has to bargain to try to convince him to stay in the marriage.

(Freedomnomics, page 165)

So, look at it this way:  Contrary to what the libertarians would wish, it is impossible for the government to be merely neutral toward marriages; through its laws, it will in effect put a thumb on the scale, either in favor of marriage or against it.  If the state refuses to help couples enforce the contracts which they, of themselves, want to bind themselves with, then the differences between men and women and just differences among individuals will make the incentives to end a marriage pile higher with every year that the marriage continues.  If, on the other hand, the state offers robust protection for marriage, it can help provide countervailing incentives to stay together through the years—again, as the couples themselves tend to want in the first place.

Look at it yet another way.  Some say that the state shouldn’t bring its coercive power into the sensitive, deeply personal world of marriages; from a libertarian standpoint, we have more liberty when the government restricts us less—in this case, when the government doesn’t restrict our free choice to stay married or to leave our spouse.  Yet, surprisingly, this argument goes both ways:  More liberty for me in the present—when, hypothetically, I’m married and considering divorce—means less liberty for me in the past, when I wanted to be free to bind myself with a marriage contract in the first place.  We can’t have it both ways; necessarily, the government’s actions will restrict our liberty at one point or the other.

Given all this emphasis I’m putting on liberty and choice, I am inclined to think that the legal innovation of “covenant marriage”, recently adopted in a few Southern states, is a good idea.  I haven’t followed those developments closely, but it is my understanding that, basically, a state which has long since changed from at-fault to no-fault divorce, without changing back generally, adds a second option for couples seeking to marry: “covenant marriage”, which can be dissolved only on certain grounds (adultery, physical abuse)—in effect, opt-in at-fault divorce.

In any case, yes, I think we should defend marriage, and we shouldn’t be embarrassed about it.  It’s something Christians, libertarians, and feminists should unite behind, if possible.  Barring that, I think we Christians have some solid, religiously neutral public-policy arguments on our side.

6 Responses to “Yes, Marriage Is worth Defending”

  1. The right left side view Says:

    Correct me if I am wrong but isn’t true that we all have the right to love who ever we choose. Certainly you can not disagree with this statement. With that being said, if two homosexuals do fall in love who are you to tell them that they cannot get married (I do realize it is not you who in fact is saying you can’t get married but rather the voters/legislatures)?

    I realize that homosexuals cannot reproduce but studies have shown that homosexual couples can raise children just as well as opposite sex couples. Many argue that the children of homosexual couples have it rough. I don’t doubt that this can be the case but perhaps we should examine why that is. If gays were more accepted then I am sure the children of a same sex couple would not have to worry about their children be harrassed at school or the grocery store. In the end it all turns on individuals like yourself. You feel that god has something to do with it. Surely god (if he exists) would want people to live lawabiding fulfilling lives. The only reason god could possibly care about homosexuals would deal with their inability to reproduce. Why would god care about such a thing? Well perhaps he cares because he needs an army of right winged conservative individuals like yourself to spread his lies.

    Times are changing, as they always do. With the change of time comes acceptance of new things. You sir have a ways to go. Gays have the same substantive due process rights as you and I, and one of those rights is the right to marry whomever one chooses whether that be someone of the same or opposite sex.

    It is enjoyable for me to see Republicans who always argue that the government has no business being involved in personal affairs argue against gay rights. Surely you are against big government. Yet you still care about the actions of individuals who have no interaction with yourself. Its time for you to give in. Its time to say, you know, gays aren’t harming me, they are not harming society, maybe I should let them be happy.

    As American society progresses, I would urge you to progress as well, because if you are not capable of doing so, I fear that you yourself will be outcasted, must like you currently wish to outcase gays.

    – The right left side view


  2. You’re confusing issues at several points. Let’s start with the end of your comment:

    “Surely you are against big government. Yet you still care about the actions of individuals who have no interaction with yourself. Its time for you to give in. Its time to say, you know, gays aren’t harming me, they are not harming society, maybe I should let them be happy.”

    “…I fear that you yourself will be outcasted, must like you currently wish to outcase gays.”

    Well, there are at least a few different kinds of caring: There’s caring about homosexuality personally, in that I think persons who practice it are hurting themselves and separating themselves from God. (By no means would I claim that homosexuality is unique in either of those respects, either; all vice hurts us, and all sin separates us from God. We’re all sinners, and we all do things we shouldn’t. Homosexuality is only one of those things, among many.) To a lesser extent, I also care about homosexuality because of its secondary ill effects on other people; none of us lives in a vacuum, but rather in an interconnected society filled with other people, and every person who proudly practices homosexuality is setting a bad example and discouraging others who would pursue virtue. (Again, by no means do I think homosexuality is unique in this; just general premarital sex comes to mind as another example, off the top of my head.) There’s also caring in the sense of advocating and supporting laws preventing or discouraging the behavior. Here, I may agree with you more than your rhetoric implies:

    I’m actually libertarian enough to oppose states’ anti-sodomy laws—that is, laws actually criminalizing homosexual intercourse (although, at the same time, I think it was wholly illegitimate for the Supreme Court to circumvent the democratic process and repeal all remaining state anti-sodomy laws in Lawrence vs. Texas in 2003). In other words, I agree, more or less, with the live-and-let-live philosophy of government you suggest. (I don’t think homosexuality, or any other vice, will ultimately make people happy, but that’s another matter.) However, it’s not entirely fair to say that homosexuals and their sympathizers—the homosexual movement, if you will—“aren’t harming me, they are not harming society”; not content with the legal freedom to indulge in their particular predilections (which, again, they’ve had everywhere in the country since 2003), they also demand cultural acceptance and approbation of their behavior, and are pushing for, for example, states positively to recognize same-sex “marriage” and schools to teach children that homosexuality is OK. (Yes, the link is to a British newspaper, but of course it’s part of the agenda here as well, and even the Associated Press admits, “Many public schools already have lessons that include references to gay families in the younger grades and confronting anti-gay discrimination for older students.”) In Canada and the United States, it may now be a crime for a pastor to express the opinion that homosexuality is wrong or for a photographer to decline a job photographing a Lesbian “wedding”. In other words, apparently we can’t stop at live-and-let-live, even if we conservatives wanted to; we must fight back or lose our own basic liberties—become “outcasts”, if you will.

    “Gays have the same substantive due process rights as you and I, and one of those rights is the right to marry whomever one chooses whether that be someone of the same or opposite sex.”

    You’re conflating at least two concepts: legal rights (what a person is legally entitled to do) and moral, or natural, rights (what a person has an original right, from God, to do—what’s actually right to do). I think you and I disagree on the second question: You believe that two persons of the same sex have the natural right to marry, while I believe both that it is definitionally impossible for them to marry (you might as well say that a bookcase and a chair have a right to marry—in my lexicon and my understanding, marriage can be between only a man and a woman) and that it is morally wrong and spiritually unhealthy for them to attempt to imitate marriage (e.g., by having sexual intercourse). On the first question, we may disagree as well, I’m not sure: As a legal, constitutional matter (you’ve brought up the legal, constitutional matter by using the fairly specific technical term “substantive due process rights”), I can tell you that while the Supreme Court held in Lawrence vs. Texas in 2003 that (basically) there’s a constitutional right to the sodomy itself, the Supreme Court has never yet held that there’s a constitutional right to same-sex marriage.

    “You feel that god has something to do with it. Surely god (if he exists) would want people to live lawabiding fulfilling lives. The only reason god could possibly care about homosexuals would deal with their inability to reproduce.”

    I would agree that God wants us to live happy, fulfilling lives on earth, although that’s not His primary concern. (Our life in this world may be better understood, at least in part, as a means to an end, a time for Him to help us grow into the kind of people who can be united with Him in joy in the hereafter.) But God, being the one Who created us, knows better than anyone else what makes us tick and what will make us truly happy and fulfilled. He tells us that marriage is part of His plan for our happiness (for most people—some are called to celibacy), and that our perversions of marriage (premarital sex, adultery, homosexuality, etc.) hurt us. The God in Whom we Christians believe is deeply personal; He loves and cares about each of us personally. He would never be interested only in something relatively superficial, like our behavior’s impact on reproduction.

    Notice that I had been making a point to talk in terms of worldly happiness and non-religious arguments for marriage. You brought God up. I think you realize—potentially we all do, intuitively, because He made us this way—that God does exist, and that He is central to this debate. He’s central to everything.

  3. The right left side view Says:

    Sir,
    I see a number of issues with your argument as I will lay out below

    1) You made the following statement:

    “…I also care about homosexuality because of its secondary ill effects on other people; none of us lives in a vacuum, but rather in an interconnected society filled with other people, and every person who proudly practices homosexuality is setting a bad example and discouraging others who would pursue virtue.”

    I am not entirely sure what this means. Is your argument that homosexuals cause society to become more homosexual? What are these ill effects you speak of?

    I would contend that homosexuals have great secondary effects in this non-vacuum world. The more diversity the better. Also, sience has indicated that genes have a lot to do with sexual preference. I understand what you are trying to argue, but if your argument is true then there are a number of things you should be against (which I am sure you are) that should be more important. Smoking, drinking and drugs are all vices that have an ill effect on our non-vacuum world. Surely the number of individuals who use these substances is 20x the number of homosexuals and if a vice is a vice is a vice then why isn’t this a major concern to you. I see Republicans like yourself standing up for big tobacco and alcohol companies all the time. My point is, the words “ill effects” sound very homophobic and if nothing else I would be interested in you expanding on this idea.

    2) You stated:

    “…they also demand cultural acceptance and approbation of their behavior, and are pushing for, for example, states positively to recognize same-sex “marriage” and schools to teach children that homosexuality is OK. (Yes, the link is to a British newspaper, but of course it’s part of the agenda here as well, and even the Associated Press admits, “Many public schools already have lessons that include references to gay families in the younger grades and confronting anti-gay discrimination for older students.”) In Canada and the United States, it may now be a crime for a pastor to express the opinion that homosexuality is wrong or for a photographer to decline a job photographing a Lesbian “wedding”. In other words, apparently we can’t stop at live-and-let-live, even if we conservatives wanted to; we must fight back or lose our own basic liberties—become “outcasts”, if you will.”

    Your argument is confusing to me. Yes homosexuals are pushing for more rights, but thats what society does, as time goes on we learn to accept new things. We are not that far removed from Loving v. Virginia, and I view the homosexual right movement very similarly. Back in the day people of the opposite race could not marry. I am sure that they taught students not to marry other races. My question is do you think schools should teach children that homosexuality is wrong? I doubt you would want that. Talking to kids about homosexuality is very important. I would compare it to teaching children about other cultures or the mentally handicapped. Just becuase they are different does not mean they should not be spoken about in school. Kids still make fun of the mentally handicapped, but since schools have started teaching students about the issues these individuals face, society has begun to accept them more.

    School around the world should push for acceptance of individuals regardless of race, sexuality, or intellegence. Homosexuality should be taught in school because to not teach it would cause ignorance and hatred.

    I also have a problem with your statement that a pastor may not be able to express his problem with homosexuality. Surely you didn’t mean this the way you stated it. As Americans we are allowed to have our own opinion. Whether your Lawrence Summers who feels that men are better then women in Math or if you are an American who claims the holocust never existed, your are protected by free speach. A perfect example would be the cardinal who claims the holocust never happened. As you may know he has been removed from his position, but he certainly has not been arrested (although he could be arrested in Germany). As for the photographer, perhaps it should be illegal for him to discriminate. We would not want a landowner to discriminate based on race, why should we allow a photographer to discriminate. What this has to do with the church is confusing to me however. A church would never be forced to marry a gay couple, hell, if I wanted to get married in a church they would probably deny me (because I am an atheist and they are free to do that).

    3) You stated:

    “…Supreme Court has never yet held that there’s a constitutional right to same-sex marriage”

    Yes, but the issue has never been heard by the court recently, and unfortunately for you I think you are in for a suprise in the next two decades

    4) You stated:

    “..that God does exist, and that He is central to this debate. He’s central to everything.”

    Look, whatever gets you through the day, but I certainly do not subscribe to this idea.

    I look forward to further discussing this matter with you

    – The right left side view


  4. “1) … Is your argument that homosexuals cause society to become more homosexual? What are these ill effects you speak of?”

    In short, as I explained in the rest of the sentence in which I mentioned “ill effects”, “every person who proudly practices homosexuality is setting a bad example and discouraging others who would pursue virtue.” Everything we do, whether a vice or a virtue, has some tendency to encourage others to do likewise. This effect can certainly be overstated; our behavior by no means forces others to behave a certain way, but it does influence others’ behavior to some degree. If I am considering making money by some dishonest scheme, and I know a friend who had the same opportunity to cheat but chose not to, I am that much less likely to do so myself. If I am tempted to homosexuality, and I know a friend who indulges that temptation and acts as if nothing were wrong with that, I am that much more likely to do so myself. I think we have a responsibility to attempt virtue, not only for God’s sake and our own, but also for the sake of everyone around us. We all set examples for each other, good or bad, whether we want to or not.

    So, yes, not overwhelmingly but to some degree, you could say that “homosexuals cause society to become more homosexual”, just as any of our behavior (good or bad) tends to cause society to become more the kind of society that practices that behavior. Again, this can be overstated, but it would also be an error to go to the opposite extreme and assume that we have no power to make a difference in the world by our example.

    “2) You stated: ‘…In other words, apparently we can’t stop at live-and-let-live, even if we conservatives wanted to; we must fight back or lose our own basic liberties—become “outcasts”, if you will.’
    “Your argument is confusing to me.”

    Well, part of my argument was that your argument contradicted itself. At one point, you had suggested that I leave homosexuals alone—live and let live, so to speak—“Its time to say, you know, gays aren’t harming me, they are not harming society, maybe I should let them be happy.” Immediately after that, however, you added, “As American society progresses, I would urge you to progress as well, because if you are not capable of doing so, I fear that you yourself will be outcasted, must like you currently wish to outcase gays.”

    In other words, you admit (as you have reinforced in your second response) that a neutral, live-and-let-live society, in which some practice homosexuality and some consider homosexuality a vice and we all coexist without bothering each other, is not possible. Instead, my side will always be trying to change the culture and make homosexuality socially unacceptable, while yours will always be trying to change the culture and make disapproving of homosexuality socially unacceptable. The schools are already one battleground for this cultural struggle. Another is the language; for example, the invented term “homophobic” implies that if anyone disapproves of homosexuality, it must mean that he is afflicted by a patholigical, irrational fear.

    “My question is do you think schools should teach children that homosexuality is wrong? I doubt you would want that. Talking to kids about homosexuality is very important. I would compare it to teaching children about other cultures or the mentally handicapped.”

    I think the obvious difference is that all segments of society can agree that nothing is morally wrong with retardation or other handicaps; so, telling children in school to stop picking on their handicapped classmates enjoys broad popular support, and I have no objection to schools’ doing it. Homosexuality, meanwhile, is hotly disputed; no, I don’t think schools should necessarily be explaining to children that homosexuality is wrong, but by the same token, I very much wish that schools would stop teaching children the contrary, that nothing is wrong with homosexuality.

    “I also have a problem with your statement that a pastor may not be able to express his problem with homosexuality. Surely you didn’t mean this the way you stated it.”

    All the places in my comment where a sequence of words appears in a slightly different color are hyperlinked. If you click on the words “express the opinion that homosexuality is wrong”, for example, in the passage about a pastor to which you refer, that will take you to a page where you can learn about Stephen Boissoin, a Canadian pastor who wrote a letter to the editor saying that homosexuality is wrong. He was subjected to legal proceedings under one of the illegitimate “Human Rights Commissions” of Canada and sentenced to what some have described as a “lifetime speech ban”. (Since I wrote that, a real court has finally reversed that decision.) You are right that the situation is not as bad in America (at least not yet), where the First Amendment offers us a fair amount of protection, but it’s worth mentioning that Canada also has the equivalent of a First Amendment (“Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms: … freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication”); a legal protection like that, to some degree, is only as good as the culture of liberty that surrounds it. In any case, the other example I linked to (“may now be a crime … for a photographer to decline a job photographing a Lesbian ‘wedding'”) was American.

    “4) You stated:
    “‘..that God does exist, and that He is central to this debate. He’s central to everything.’
    “Look, whatever gets you through the day, but I certainly do not subscribe to this idea.”

    You should, though. He (and our relationship with Him) is the only thing that matters in the end. You and I both will move on with our lives and probably forget all about this conversation we had, and cultures will shift back and forth but eventually you and I will both die and, sooner or later, civilizations will collapse and the larger debates over American culture and vice and virtue will be lost to memory, but we will have to live with our relationship with God (whether a good one or a bad one) forever.

    I don’t believe in God because that “gets me through the day”—in fact, it would sometimes be much more convenient, as I get through the day, if God didn’t exist; I would be free to make money through dishonest schemes or indulge in other temptations or do whatever I felt like doing—but rather, I believe in God because I have been convinced that He really does exist, whether I want Him to or not. In short, Christianity makes more sense (contradicts itself less, explains the observed world better, etc.) than any of the alternatives, including atheism. If you think, as many do, that a rational, thinking person cannot believe in God, I recommend to you C. S. Lewis’s Mere Christianity, The Problem of Pain, and Miracles.

    Of course, reading one of the Gospels always does a body good, too.


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